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MapInfo transformation not reading right Coordinate System


vdeyepc
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Hello FME Folks,
This is related to MapInfo Tab files. Since we upgraded from FME 2018 to FME 2024.2.1. The MapInfo coordinate System (Non Earth Meters) are not detected which used to happen in FME 2018. Instead it is taking wkt_auto_1 and is misaligned. 
Please let me know what changed.

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j.botterill
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  • March 14, 2025

FME understands “real-world projections” using CS-Map libraries, using https://docs.safe.com/fme/html/FME-Form-Documentation/FME-Form/Workbench/How_FME_Identifies_Coordinate_Systems.htm so for the majority of MapInfo and EPSG number or LL-MAPINFO for LL WGS84

Ypu can convert a non-earth projection (metres) to a real-wold projection referring to this knowledge article https://customer.precisely.com/s/article/Converting-a-map-in-non-earth-projection-to-a-real-world-projection-using-MapInfo-Professional?language=en_US

Why FME has dropped this, I’m unsure but hopefully some at Safe software can say

 

 


daveatsafe
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  • March 14, 2025

Hi ​@vdeyepc,

Would you be able to share a simple dataset to illustrate this problem?


vdeyepc
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  • March 19, 2025

Hi ​@daveatsafe,

Sure, I can but I am unable to add here. Is there a another to just transfer to you.

I will add both FME 2018 and FME 2024 files along with logs.

Thanks,


j.botterill
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  • March 19, 2025

you should be able to add attachments “Upload Files” in replies 

 


daveatsafe
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  • March 20, 2025

Hi ​@vdeyepc,

You can send an attachment or download link to dave.campanas@safe.com.


daveatsafe
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  • March 25, 2025

Hi ​@vdeyepc,

Thank you for the files. 

FME is not recognizing the coordinate system read from Oracle, either by the SRID or the WKT definition, due to the unknown Datum name. FME 2018 just gives up and assigns a Non Earth coordinate system, while FME 2024 works a little harder and creates an appropriate coordinate system with an unknown datum. However, there is no way to set the unknown datum when writing a Mapinfo coordinate system, so the default WGS 84 datum is used.

The original datum is NAD 83 with a slightly different name, so there is some difference in the resulting Mapinfo coordinate system that may cause some offset.

The best solution would be to add a coordinate system exception to map the Oracle SRID to the correct coordinate system, which is 3TM114-83. I have created the necessary exception for you in the attached zip file. Please unzip the attachment, then use the FME Flow web interface to upload the resulting .db to Resources/Engine/CoordinateSystemExceptions. You may need to restart FME Flow for this change to take effect.

Once this exception is added, the Oracle data will automatically have the correct coordinate system when read, and this will propagate to the output Mapinfo file.


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