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Transform from NAD83-Original (1994) to NAD83-CSRS for areas which don’t have a provincial grid shift file?

  • 20 November 2019
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How do I transform from NAD83-Original (1994) to NAD83-CSRS for areas which don’t have a provincial grid shift file? (e.g. Yukon, NWT).

All new incoming data are NAD83-CSRS and I want to bring our older holdings up to match. I don’t have confidence in the automatic methods chosen by ArcMap/Pro/others in project-on-the-fly situations. I’ve seen too many instances where different coordinates are reported for same points from different methods.

With csmapReprojector the process fails with:

CS-MAP Reprojector: Transformation will be automatically selected for 'UTM83-8' -> 'CSRS.UTM-8N', and is not guaranteed to remain the same in future releases of FME
CSRS :: Referenced grid file does not exist or cannot be opened for reading.
A fatal error has occurred. Check the logfile above for details
...
CsmapReprojector (TeeFactory): CsmapReprojector: Reproject: Could not reproject the geometry of the preceding feature: CS-Map Reprojector: Unable to load grid file for 'NAD83_to_CSRS' | CS-Map Reprojector: This grid may either be available at the government agency applicable to the geographical area or in the FME Reprojection Grid Add-on at: | http://www.safe.com/support/support-resources/fme-downloads/ or http://www.safe.com/support/support-resources/fme-downloads/beta/ | CS-MAP Reprojector: Please visit following link for more information on obtaining Canadian grid files: https://knowledge.safe.com/articles/789/where-to-source-canadian-grid-shift-files-not-incl.html | CS-MAP Reprojector: Transformation 'NAD83_to_CSRS' could not be loaded

 

With EsriReprojector the process succeeds but log warns:

EsriReprojector: Ignoring input feature coordinate system `UTM83-8'. This warning will not be repeated.
Esri Reprojector: Specified geotransformation `' (forward) may be inappropriate for reprojection from `_UTM83-8_0' (GCS: `GCS_North_American_1983') to `_CSRS.UTM-8N_0' (GCS: `GCS_North_American_1983_CSRS') using the ESRI reprojection engine

 


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I was going to suggest looking for a grid shift file on NRCan's Geodetic Reference Systems Tools webpage, but I don't see anything for NAD83 to NAD83 CSRS for your area. Still you can take a look around at there NTv2 site: https://webapp.geod.nrcan.gc.ca/geod/tools-outils/ntv2.php?locale=en

There is also an email address that pops up when you click on the Geodetic Reference Systems Information link in the bottom right. I would try shooting them an email.

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